God is God, not your girlfriend or boyfriend

Jonathan Dodson hits on something that bugs me too about some contemporary christian songs. God is not properly the subject of a sappy syrupy love song that could just as easily have been sung about our then current crush when we were in 10th grade.

God is God and his great and mighty love for us can only be fully understood when it is seen in comparison to his great and just wrath for our sinfulness. Only when we see how much we deserve God’s wrath and how little we deserve God’s affection, will God’s great and magnificent love for us be understood. Romans 5:6 says that just at the right time while we were still weak and powerless, Christ died for us. 5:8 makes it explicit that God’s love is demonstrated in the fact that while we were sinners (and thus deservedly the objects of God’s proper holy wrath) Christ died for us.

Here’s a bit of Jonathan, but go look at the post for the picture and for tips to songwriters.

In order to understand God’s love, we must understand his anger. God’s anger inevitably leads us to the cross, where justice and mercy meet in perfect, soul-wrenching, Christ-crushing, sin-forgiving, life-giving, love-flowing harmony. For those that hope in Jesus, the anger of God against our unrighteousness is mercifully diverted from us onto His beloved Son. As a result, God preserves and promotes his justice and humanity’s joy where anger and love converge—at the cross.
The purpose of God’s anger is to display the depth and character of his eternal justice and his love for us. When we understand that God’s love is God’s because of his justice and anger, only then can we begin to comprehend how great a love he has for us.

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newsweek's stab at hermeneutics

I don’t know how many are aware of Newsweek’s recent cover story regarding homosexual marriage and how the Bible’s “values” support it, but it was quite something. If you have some time to kill and want to read a good example of how not to approach the scripture then this is a good one.

Professor Robert A. Gagnon has performed a valuable service for all of us by taking Ms. Miller’s arguments seriously enough to read them carefully and thoroughly demolish them. Here is the good professor’s first sentence of a 23 page takedown: “As its cover story for the Dec. 15, 2008 issue, the editors of Newsweek offer readers a hopelessly distorted and one-sided propaganda piece on “gay marriage” entitled “Our Mutual Joy.””

It just gets better after that.

Here are some of the professor’s concluding thoughts:

Lisa Miller’s article is so poorly researched and so badly (and arrogantly) argued that the editors of Newsweek should be ashamed of themselves for publishing it. But they are not ashamed. In fact, managing editor Jon Meacham sets up Miller’s cover story in his “Editor’s Desk” column by writing:

No matter what one thinks about gay rights—for, against or somewhere in between —this conservative resort to biblical authority is the worst kind of fundamentalism. Given the history of the making of the Scriptures and the millennia of critical attention scholars and others have given to the stories and injunctions that come to us in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian New Testament, to argue that something is so because it is in the Bible is more than intellectually bankrupt—it is unserious, and unworthy of the great Judeo-Christian tradition.
Let’s see if I understand this: Basing one’s views on the overwhelming witness of Scripture regarding an important issue of sexual ethics, including the witness of Jesus—a witness understood, of course, in its historical and literary contexts—is “unworthy of the great Judeo-Christian tradition”? Does Meacham not realize that obedience to scriptural authority and the teaching of Jesus is precisely how “the great Judeo-Christian tradition” formulated its theology since its inception? And how is a negation of appeals to scriptural authority consistent with the subheading for Miller’s article: “Opponents of gay marriage often cite Scripture. But what the Bible teaches about love argues for the other side”? So as an alternative to submitting to the overwhelming witness of Scripture on moral issues, which includes the voice of Jesus, believers should prefer the sloppy moral reasoning of people like Meacham and Miller?
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The question must be asked: What is it with the “elite” newspapers and newsmagazines over the past decade? Are they so obsessed with promoting the homosexualist agenda that they have now given up even a pretense to objectivity, balanced research, and good sense? Do they care nothing for destroying their reputation, built up over many years, as credible sources for news and commentary? These news sources are more and more resembling a homosexualist Pravda—a different agenda but the same style of propaganda “news” reporting that would make the old Kremlin leadership proud.

We should, of course, continue to dialogue with homosexualist advocates like Miller and Meacham. However, their support for a homosexualist ideology is so brazen and offensive in its blatant misinformation—obviously they are very angry about the passage of Proposition 8 in California—that subscribers to Newsweek should give serious consideration to canceling their subscription. For such homosexualist zealots as Miller and Meacham, reasoned argumentation is unlikely to have any major impact. They will understand the language of money, though. It is clear that, ultimately, Miller and Meacham have little desire to make responsible arguments about the merits of moral appeals to Scripture (their refusal to consider any major argument against their position is evidence enough of this). They have only one objective; namely, to intimidate Jews and Christians who appeal to Scripture for their opposition to homosexual practice. Such persons must either shut up or else be treated as the ignorant religious bigots that Miller and Meacham claim them to be.

hat tip to Vitamin Z and Justin Taylor

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foto friday

moon over the capitol dome
moon over Texas

the same moon this morning.
morning moon

a wider shot
moon over Texas

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theology in church?

Yesterday Todd Burus put up a post regarding his church’s general lack of receptivity to learning deeper theological points. let him explain what he means:

As someone who teaches frequently across several ages in the church, probably the largest complaint I have, or at least the complaint that I most frequently bother my poor wife with, is the fact that I often times feel I cannot go too deep with the material without losing a majority of the audience I am speaking with. This is not an indictment on their intelligence or desire to glorify God, but is just a general frustration at the fact that when several people are gathered in a room on Sunday morning or Wednesday evening for “Bible Study,” the overriding expectation to which they have been conditioned by years of church culture is one of discussion and venting about what is on their mind and not necessarily of mining out with precision and care the finer, deeper points of Scripture. Not only am I bothered by this, but I think it is symptomatic of much that is wrong in contemporary modern/post-modern American Christianity.
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Theology, as they’ve been taught, is boring, stuffy, and, this is the kicker, it often times leads to arguments. Therefore, it is much better to just avoid it then to run the risk of splitting the room over whether Romans 9 is corporate election to physical blessings or individual election to eternal life (it’s the latter, by the way).

go read all of it to see why learning theology is important for every believer.

In my experience teaching adults, I found there to be a hunger for learning deeper scriptural truths about God. that is why I shucked the Lifeway curriculum and just did straight expositional teaching. If anyone wanted to go to a “safer” class without occasional arguments like the one Todd mentions, then there were plenty of traditional model classes available.

what is your experience in your church? do you teach theological truths? Does your pastor from the pulpit? Are the people receptive to learning/wrestling with these things?

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another thought for the day

Charles Spurgeon from Reformation 21:

“Winter in the soul is by no means a comfortable season, and if it be upon thee just now it will be very painful to thee; but there is this comfort, namely, that the Lord makes it. He sends the sharp blasts of adversity to nip the buds of expectation: He scattereth the hoar-frost like ashes over the once verdant meadows of our joy: He casteth forth his ice like morsels freezing the streams of our delight. He does it all, He is the great Winter King, and rules in the realms of frost, and therefore thou canst not murmur. Losses, crosses, heaviness, sickness, poverty, and a thousand other ills, are of the Lord’s sending, and come to us with wise design.” (Morning and Evening)

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More Pursuit of God

another quote from Tozer’s first chapter that precedes the one I mentioned below by a few sentences says:

The continuous and unembarrassed interchange of love and thought between God and the soul of the redeemed man is the throbbing heart of New Testament religion.

Isn’t that a marvelous summation of our passionate pursuit of God in response to his passionate pursuit of us?

Some questions arise though. Have you ever experienced such an interchange of love and thought with God, no matter how briefly?

if so, are you finding such periods to be increasing over time in length and numerosity?

If not, why not? have you examined yourself to determine whether or not you are in the faith?

If you only experienced such an interchange once or with decreasing frequency over time, have you begged God for a reawakening of your first love? why not? Why not do so right now?

often our own sin blocks this supernatural communion. David describes this unconfessed condition as having his bones dry up groaning day and night with his strength dried up.

once he confessed, then he was “blessed” (happy) again. he could be glad in the Lord and rejoice. psalm 32:1-2 and 11. David’s advice to us is that we shouldn’t stubbornly persist in our unconfessed state like a mule. That mule then has to be forcibly turned with a bit and bridle.

So confess your sins and return to God with all your heart. The joyful passionate interchange of love and thought with God is waiting.

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the pursuit of God

In our men’s Bible study on Tuesday mornings we have started the book The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer.

On page 14 of my copy, Mr. Tozer says this:

This intercourse between God and the soul is known to us in conscious personal awareness. It is personal: it does not come through the body of believers, as such, but it is known to the individual, and to the body through the individuals which compose it.

Isn’t that an interesting concept? The pursuit of God is personal. Not corporate. Do you agree with that? why or why not? If you do agree, then why have church communities at all? If we aren’t striving for God corporately, then what is the point of being corporate?

Thankfully, the Bible gives us an answer. The point of the body of believers is to encourage, exhort and provoke one another into the pursuit of God. Hebrews 3:13, Hebrews 10:24-25, Galatians 6:1

Jesus even gives us a model procedure for confronting a brother who has wronged you in Matthew 18:15-20. What do we notice about this procedure? Look at it a minute:

15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed[a] in heaven. 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”

Do you see in this passage that Tozer was correct? The malefactor/tortfeasor/wrongdoer has three chances in this procedure to repent of his wrongdoing and return to the fold. His brothers have the explicit duty to confront him with his wrongdoing and the implied duty to forgive and accept him if he returns. But the bottom line choice about whether to repent and return rests with the wrongdoer.

The most Christian brothers and sisters can do for each other on the journey is love one another, pray for one another, encourage one another, exhort one another, confront one another when we go off track, spur/goad one another etc. Whether or not any particular individual is receptive to the encouragement/exhortation/confrontation/love/prayer/etc is up to that individual.

The ultimate decision about whether to pursue God or not is a solitary decision made by every particular individual every moment of every day. That intercourse is personal to each one of us and God.

thankfully, the choice is not up to us. Although we must make the choice, God’s grace gives us the power to pursue Him. John 1:11-13, John 6:44, John 6:65. II Corinthians 3:18 makes it clear that we “are being transformed” (passive voice, God doing the transformation) into His image with ever increasing glory. II Peter 1:3-8 says that His divine power has given us everything that we need for life and godliness, and that “for this reason” we must “make every effort” to supplement our faith with virtue etc.

We have to be able to see two lines at once in order to grasp the truth of scripture. God expects us to passionately pursue him with all of our heart, mind, soul and strength. God gives us the very ability that we need to do this thing that goes against our natural man’s nature. God also insures that the process will be completed for the increase of his glory. See Ephesians 1:3-14, II Cor. 3:18 and Hebrews 12:5-11.

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what is christmas?

love this video.

That’s Christmas! from andy pearce on Vimeo.

hat tip to Adrian Warnock

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thought for the day

here is a cheerful thought for the day from the Ikonograph.

The ironic thing here is that we don’t grow unless we hurt. Pain makes us evaluate what it is we cling to, and God wants to teach us to cling to Christ. Suffering forces the Christian to see that everything else is vanity, and that we have to look to “the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus” (Php 3:8).The more we suffer, the more we can see the foolishness of fixing our affections on things that will pass away. The more we suffer, the more we see that worldly affections can’t even make a return on investment before they pass away.

just a thought. go read what else he has to say about burning forests and lightning. good stuff.

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a bit of Tim Keller

Darryl Dash interviews Tim Keller here and here. they are short and interesting so go take a look.

here is a tease from part 1:

The evangelical Church is bitterly divided into groups that say, either we should change the culture “one heart at a time” by evangelizing individuals, or we should change the culture by penetrating the cultural institutions with Christians operating out of a biblical world-view.

Others say we will only affect the culture if the Church contextualizes—connects to people’s needs and concerns and serves the poor and needy—while still others say we shouldn’t be trying to change culture at all; we should just “be the Church,” because trying to change the culture inevitably corrupts the Church into the image of the culture.

Until we can break through these warring views and factions we are in trouble

go read against whom he thinks the different factions are reacting, and then go read part two for his proposed solution. fascinating.

hat tip to Between Two Worlds.

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video sunday

John Piper on learning to love God’s sovereignty
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and here he is on the supremacy of Christ
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and a fascinating ten minutes on evangelism.
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red door furniture

by the tire store this morning was a place where we bought a baby bed a long time ago. wonder how long it has been out of business. I wonder if the property will be put to any use.

decay
bki_9376decay

reckon if there is a metaphor somewhere in this.

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poinsettia

trying another direct upload now that wordpress 2.7 is out.  

chrismas poinsettia

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more on the Shack

Resurgence has posted Scott Lindsey’s thorough review of The Shack. It is the best one I have seen yet at taking the problems with the book head on from scripture. Bookmark the page and go back to it anytime someone talks to you about this book. There is a pdf download available (14 pages) as well so that you don’t even need to be connected to the interwebs to read it.

In this passage here Scott puts his finger on the core problem with this book:

One of the most disturbing aspects of The Shack is the behavior of Mack when he is in the presence of God. When we read in the Bible about those who were given glimpses of God, these people were overwhelmed by His glory. In Isaiah 6 the prophet is allowed to see “the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up” (Isaiah 6:1). Isaiah reacts by crying out “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts” (Isaiah 6:5)! Isaiah declares a curse upon himself for being a man whose lips are willing to utter unclean words even in a world created by a God of such glory and perfection.

When Moses encountered God in the burning bush, he hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God’s glory (Exodus 3:6). In Exodus 33 Moses is given just a glimpse of God’s glory, but God will show only His back, saying, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live” (Genesis 33:20). Examples abound. When we look to the Bible’s descriptions of heaven we find that any creatures who are in the presence of God are overwhelmed and overjoyed, crying out about God’s glory day and night. But in The Shack we find a man who stands in the very presence of God and uses foul language (“damn” (140) and “son of a bitch” (224)), who expresses anger to God (which in turn makes God cry) (92), and who snaps at God in his anger (96). This is not a man who is in the presence of One who is far superior to Him, but a man who is in the presence of a peer. This portrayal of the relationship of man to God and God to man is a far cry from the Bible’s portrayal.

And indeed it must be because the God of The Shack is only a vague resemblance to the God of the Bible. There is no sense of awe as we, through Mack, come into the presence of God. Gone is the majesty of God when men stand in His holy presence and profane His name. Should God allow in His presence the very sins for which He sent His Son to die? Would a man stand before the Creator of the Universe and curse? What kind of God is the God of The Shack?

Once God is a peer, then everything else is up for grabs.

Hat tip to Challies.

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D.A. Carson

Here is a quote from D.A. Carson via Vitamin Z about why Christians are surprised by suffering.

Here is his first reason:

We may get the balance of Scripture wrong. We remember the wonderful triumphs of Joseph, Gideon, and David; we meditate continuously on the miraculous healing of the man born blind, or on the resurrection of Lazarus. We are less inclined to think through the sufferings of Jeremiah, the constant ailments of Timothy, the illness of Trophimus, or the thorn in Paul’s flesh. A righteous man like Naboth perishes under trumped up charges (1 Kings 21). The “good guys” do not always win. We shall have occasion to return to such topics. For now it is enough to note that we may be infected by a pious version of the raw triumphalism that prevails in much of the surrounding culture because we have not taken care to follow the balance of Scripture.
– D.A. Carson, How Long O Lord?, p. 25

I would agree with Mr. Carson on this point, but I think the problem is even a bit more basic still. Almost all of the people who go to church for an hour on Sunday morning would have absolutely no idea who Naboth is if you went up to them on the street and asked them. I would bet that a pretty large majority wouldn’t even know who Jeremiah was and they sure wouldn’t know that his nickname was the “weeping prophet” or why in the world he might have such a nickname. They wouldn’t know about Timothy’s stomach problems. Anyway, you get the point.

Most people who go to church and call themselves christians have absolutely no idea what is in that mysterious book they carry for a short while one day of the week.

How could they then help but be surprised when they suffer? They hear flashy smiling smooth talking preachers talking about christianity as a way to have our best life now and they think that if they aren’t having (in their subjective opinion, of course) a good life, much less their best life, then something must be wrong with them.

The level of ignorance of what the Bible actually teaches is absolutely astounding and inexcusable in this age with such ready access to God’s word.

Just pick one up and read it. God breathed it for you to have and read. He wants you to get to know him as he really is and not as the cartoon character that his opponents and “friends” have made him out to be.

Take a chance. Read a Bible. It might just shift your perspective a wee bit.

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foto friday

Here is a reworking of a christmas tree
fiber optic bokeh

some more christmas cheer
reflection bokeh

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itches

do you ever have an itch that you just can’t quite scratch? Something that worries the top of your brain unresolved and just won’t go away? Something that just hangs in the background casting an ever so slight pall on whatever else is going on because there is no relief?

that is the way I feel a good bit of the time. When I read Elihu’s words in Job 32:17-22, I completely understand what he meant.

17 I also will answer with my share;
I also will declare my opinion.
18 For I am full of words;
the spirit within me constrains me.
19 Behold, my belly is like wine that has no vent;
like new wineskins ready to burst.
20 I must speak, that I may find relief;
I must open my lips and answer.
21 I will not show partiality to any man
or use flattery toward any person.
22 For I do not know how to flatter,
else my Maker would soon take me away.

then I run across something like the message Paul Washer gives in the video below, and I can say, “ahhh…..that is what I was trying to say. what a relief!”

He says, “the church in America today looks like a Six Flags Over Jesus.” and that isn’t even the best part. Listen to what Paul says. “we spend five minutes counseling someone about salvation and then spend 50 years trying to disciple a goat into a sheep.”

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I linked to it on Timmy Brister’s blog before here.

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we must get this

here again is a link to John MacArthur’s two part message on God and evil. if you only have 25 minutes, then listen to part two only. Unfortunately, the free listening of the message is no longer available. They cost money (2 dollars) to download, but are worth it.

originally posted on 8/27. everyone needs to listen to part two at this link. seriously.

if God is sovereign over all like He says He is in Ephesians 1:11, then it necessarily follows that God wills that evil exist.

“God wills evil to exist. (without being evil)” according to the Ligonier ministries blog, that is how John MacArthur begins the two sermons linked here. UPDATE: the quoted phrase comes at the beginning of the second message.

I am going to give these messages a listen this morning and this evening.

UPDATE: The first message was only 24 minutes long. Mainly it consisted of establishing with scripture that God is sovereign over all things. That everything is part of His plan.

oooo! part 2 starts out with a kick.

UPDATE II: Excellent 2nd message as well. as you would expect from John MacArthur, it is mostly just straight scripture. If you don’t start from the assumption that the Bible is God’s word to us and that our job is to figure out what it says and get under it, then you will not get these messages. if you do start from that assumption, then it is a wrasslin’ match. ding, ding. let the match begin.

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church planting

Two interesting links that I ran across yesterday. Both of them are in this post by Reformissionary and the Dan Kimball article was also mentioned in this post by Chris Marlow.

The question I have is about church planting. Mark Driscoll talks at length about the Acts 29 church planting network here. it is a fascinating and low key talk that is quite enlightening. He discusses the “marks” of an Acts 29 church plant and what kind of gift set is needed to qualify for their program. In passing he mentions that the church plants in the network that are doing well have strong bible teaching with sermons typically lasting 45 minutes to an hour.

By contrast, Dan Kimball is having some doubts about missional churches that have been planted lately. In case you don’t know, Dan Kimball is considered to be one of the beginners of the emerging church movement. I read his book, the Emerging Church, back in 2003 when I was beginning my own exploration of what church is and should be. I thought his diagnosis of the problems in churches was spot on but that his prescription for change was superficial and silly.

Dan’s current article is enjoyable because it is honest and self aware in a way that most people avoid most of the time. For instance, this is how he begins:

I hope I am wrong. For the past few years, I have been observing, listening, and asking questions about the missional movement. I have a suspicion that the missional model has not yet proven itself beyond the level of theory. Again, I hope I am wrong.

He then goes on to give some examples of missional churches, house churches and traditional attractional model churches and checks their actual results in lives won to the Kingdom of God and people’s lives reflecting that goal. Fascinating.

Go check out these two items. compare and contrast the approaches and results. Do some research on your own. Think about why a church would succeed in reaching the lost and effectively discipling them and why one wouldn’t.

It occurs to me that the power of God flows through his word and the honest effective straightforward expositional preaching thereof. Once the preaching ingredient is in place, then the rest of the church’s success in reaching and changing depends on the effectiveness of the shepherding plans in place. people need care and guidance as they shift their frame of reference, their worldview from self advancement to the advancement of God’s glory and kingdom. Everything else involved in a church plant are negotiable details.

what do you think?

I have to tell you that my experience is as a sunday school teacher in adult Bible study. I began by using the regular Southern Baptist curriculum. I used a couple of different kinds over the first few years. Both of them were absolute jokes. They were dumbed down, foolish and insulted the intelligence of my class. I eventually began using them as starting points for text and did my own lessons and finally discarded them altogether after a few years.

When I abandoned curriculum altogether, I started teaching the Bible expositionally. We did Daniel, Revelation, Romans, Philippians, Hebrews and I Peter that I can remember right now. We also did some quicker looks at minor prophets, Joel, Jonah, Haggai, Habakkuk, and Hosea. Some Sundays we would cover four or five verses and other Sundays we might cover a dependent phrase in one verse. We took as long as it took to cover the material effectively. We took some Sundays off to cover special events like holidays or something that came up and needed attention in a more topical manner, but then we returned to the text of whatever book we were studying. It took more than a year to make it through each of Romans and Hebrews. But what wonderful years well spent.

Numerically, our classes did well and, more importantly, there was evidence of life change occurring in our class members. What I learned is that God uses and blesses the straightforward honest expositional teaching and preaching of his word. Gimmicky lesson plans that don’t challenge the learner are not valuable.

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background noise

Tim Challies has a great post on technology and its role in our lives. The whole thing is worth reading, but here is an excerpt to get you started.

In our culture we have allowed ourselves to become notoriously busy. And all the time, while we are busily going through life, there is a great deal of “noise” in the background of our lives. It may be music that plays when we drive, when we work and when we play. It may be a television that is turned on every time we have a few minutes to spare. Perhaps when we find fifteen empty minutes between picking the kids up from school and beginning to cook dinner we watch an episode of Judge Judy or catch a re-run of The Simpsons. The background noise may be a Blackberry that constantly beeps and buzzes as it receives emails or stock quotes, even when we are far away from the office. It may be a cell phone that keeps customers or employees in contact with us even on weekends and holidays.

It seems to me that, as society continues to move in its current direction, and as we become ever more “wired,” Christians have to be increasingly deliberate about moderating and perhaps removing some of this ever-present background noise. If we are to be thinking people, people who think deeply and deliberately about spiritual matters, we simply cannot allow our lives to be overshadowed by the noise of technology.

Does silence make you fidgety like it does me? We did a spiritual disciplines book last year in our Bible study and when we got to the discipline of “silence” I had more than mild discomfort with the exercise. Maybe my discomfort is an indicator that this is an area where I really need to work for a while. I can’t do a lot today about all the places that I have to go and the things that I have to do, but I can turn off the noise in between stops.

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two views of the gospel

While we are at Ramblin’ Pastor Man’s place, check out his post quoting J.I. Packer on two views of the gospel.

Here is the clearest list of the differences that I have yet seen. Go read the conclusion that follows these two lists. Powerful stuff.

According to Dr. Packer, the Arminian view of the gospel can be summarized as follows:

1. Man is never so completely corrupted by sin that he cannot savingly believe the gospel when it is put before him,

2. nor is he ever so completely controlled by God that he cannot reject it.

3. God’s election of those who shall be saved is prompted by his foreseeing that they will of their own accord believe.

4. Christ’s death did not ensure the salvation of anyone, for it did not secure the gift of faith to anyone (there is no such gift): what it did was rather to create a possibility of salvation for everyone if they believe.

5. It rests with believers to keep themselves in a state of grace by keeping up their faith; those who fail here fall away and are lost.

Dr. Packer then goes on to summarize the Reformed view of the gospel in this manner:

1. Fallen man in his natural state lacks all power to believe the gospel, just as he lacks all power to believe the law, despite all external inducements that may be extended to him.

2. God’s election is a free, sovereign, unconditional choice of sinners, as sinners, to be redeemed by Christ, given faith, and brought to glory.

3. The redeeming work of Christ had as its end and goal the salvation of the elect.

4. The work of the Holy Spirit in bringing men to faith never fails to achieve its object.

5. Believers are kept in faith and grace by the unconquerable power of God till they come to glory.

and here is part of Dan Lowe’s excellent summation:

Now the ultimate standard by which we judge our view of the gospel is Scripture alone. All God’s people must strive to humble themselves before the Word of God and seek to understand the good news in the way in which God has revealed it. But our responsibility does not end there. We have an obligation to proclaim this gospel message to the world around us. And our proclamation of the gospel should be robust, expounding the fullness of the glory of the message of salvation. This means that we must deal with the issues at the heart of the debate between those who are Arminian and Reformed in their understanding of the gospel. If we do otherwise, than we are not being faithful communicators of the God-given gospel message.

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two lines at once

Ramblin’ Pastor man has several quotes from Charles Spurgeon posted. Go take a look. I especially enjoyed this bit here:

Not only are there a few cardinal doctrines, by which we can steer our ship North, South, East, or West, but as we study the Word, we shall begin to learn something about the North-west and North-east, and all else that lies between the four cardinal points. The system of truth revealed in the Scriptures is not simply one straight line, but two; and no man will ever get a right view of the gospel until he knows how to look at the two lines at once. For instance, I read in one Book of the Bible, “The Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Yet I am taught, in another part of the same inspired Word, that “it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.” I see, in one place, God in providence presiding over all, and yet I see, and I cannot help seeing, that man acts as he pleases, and that God has left his actions, in a great measure, to his own free-will. Now, if I were to declare that man was so free to act that there was no control of God over his actions, I should be driven very near to atheism; and if, on the other hand, I should declare that God so over-rules all things that man is not free enough to be responsible, I should be driven at once into Antinomianism or fatalism. That God predestines, and yet that man is responsible, are two facts that few can see clearly. They are believed to be inconsistent and contradictory to each other. If, then, I find taught in one part of the Bible that everything is fore-ordained, that is true; and if I find, in another Scripture, that man is responsible for all his actions, that is true; and it is only my folly that leads me to imagine that these two truths can ever contradict each other. I do not believe they can ever be welded into one upon any earthly anvil, but they certainly shall be one in eternity. They are two lines that are so nearly parallel, that the human mind which pursues them farthest will never discover that they converge, but they do converge, and they will meet somewhere in eternity, close to the throne of God, whence all truth doth spring.”

the italics are his, but the bolding is mine.

there is the basic fundamental tension at the heart of everything. I love it when he says, “No man will ever get a right view of the gospel until he knows how to look at two lines at once.”

Both lines are ever present in the Bible.

After church yesterday (don’t tell Malcolm Yarnell, but we went to a Presbyterian church yesterday) I was looking with my kids at John chapter 1. Both lines are right there in verses 12 and 13. we have to receive and believe, but we are born of God and not of the will of man or flesh. I just love it.

How good are you at seeing two lines at the same time? Do you embrace the tension and mystery at the heart of the gospel? Aren’t you glad to worship a God that you can’t figure out?

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love the morning

Today was the first real sun in a few days. I love it.
red leaves and sunstars
red leaves and sunstars
red leaves and sunstars

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fight update status

For anybody interested in the status of the current internecine warfare in the SBC between Calvinists and Anti-Calvinists, Timmy has a chronological timeline with links. For those of you that don’t care, don’t click.

It is fascinating to me to see the approach to conflict on display here. It is also fascinating to me to see that the attitudes that I experienced at a local SBC church (which caused me to leave that fellowship) are apparently convention wide. The requirement that people be Baptist first completely ran me out. Anytime the fuss is over various confessions of faith; their meaning and application rather than the Bible’s meaning and application, then I believe we are wasting time.

Specifically, check out this item from Malcolm Yarnell in response to Tom Ascol. (you will recall that Malcolm and Tom interacted extensively in the comments to this blog post by Tom.)

2. As a result of his repeated unwillingness to answer a specific question regarding his church’s communion with a Presbyterian, many will be led to the unfortunate conclusion that Dr. Ascol is not willing to affirm the Baptist Faith and Message in its entirety. Let it be clearly noted that communion with Presbyterians is certainly within the prerogative of Dr. Ascol’s local church as a free church. However, communion with Presbyterians is outside Southern Baptist orthodoxy, at least according to the common confession of the Southern Baptist Convention. A reading of articles 6-7, especially the first paragraph of article 7, of the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 will demonstrate how communion with Presbyterians is outside the confessional mainstream of Southern Baptist life.

Do you get that? Do you see where the emphasis is? is it on scripture? Or is it on a man made document?

Now check out this paragraph from James White in response to Dr. Yarnell.

I note also a very fascinating exchange taking place in the comments on Tom Ascol’s last blog entry, found here. Malcom [sic] Yarnell scares me. Evidently, if I find my Presbyeterian brothers to be co-laborers in the kingdom, firm believers in the gospel of grace, compatriots in the battle against the powers of darkness and brothers in their passion for the freedom of God in salvation and the glory of Christ as Savior and Mediator, I’m just not quite “Baptist” enough for him. Of course, I also ran across this comment from him that made my head spin: “In response, please note that I consider the Roman Catholic church in the same way I do Lutheran and Presbyterian churches, although I do prefer the latter’s doctrines in some ways: the churches hold to innovations that countermand the New Testament, and thus may be classified as sub-New Testament.” – Malcolm.” “Prefer the latter’s doctrines in some ways”???? I am simply left without words at such a statement. Amazing, just amazing.

emphasis added

Now, James White might be a little too disputatious and pugnacious for some, but doesn’t he have a point here? shouldn’t we be keeping our eye on a little larger ball than staying within “the confessional mainstream of Southern Baptist life” or “Southern Baptist orthodoxy”? Shouldn’t we be a bit more focused on the Kingdom of Heaven? Shouldn’t we be more focused on the core issues that unite us rather than secondary issues upon which we have differences?

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mark dever on the Gospel

here is Mark Dever on the good news of the Gospel.
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hat tip to Ramblin’ Pastor Man

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