what she said

I was disgusted to hear on the news yesterday that a 34 year old man died in a Black Friday rush at a Wal Mart in New York. What a spectacle. What an illustration of this country’s complete decadence.

Here are Julie Neidlinger’s thoughts on the matter. I really like the way she puts it. If you aren’t reading her blog, you should be.

To live a life — parents who raised you, all your friends, family and experiences and heartaches and joys and sadness — and to take a job just for the Christmas season only to have people break down the doors of a discount store selling cheap crap and crush you underfoot while the stampede of greedy human beings pressed onward to buy stuff they do not need.

That people would break down the doors to get in.
That people would push on over another person.
That people who may have been caught up in the crowd and unable to stop the press then continued on to shop and not stop and do something.

For cheap electronics.
For toys that will be broken in a few months.
For clothes to be crammed in already-full closets.
For DVDs that will be watched once or twice.
For this, a man died.

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ouch, from the Onion

ouch! go take a look at this from the Onion and wince. It is satire, so maybe a little over the top, but too close to home on too many fronts.

What I’m trying to say is, don’t let the actions of a vocal few color your perceptions about what the majority of us are like.

Like me. I may be a Christian, but it’s not like I’m one of those wacko “love your neighbor as yourself ” types.

God forbid!

I’m here to tell you there are lots of Christians who aren’t anything like the preconceived notions you may have. We’re not all into “turning the other cheek.” We don’t spend our days committing random acts of kindness for no credit. And although we believe that the moral precepts in the Book of Leviticus are the infallible word of God, it doesn’t mean we’re all obsessed with extremist notions like “righteousness” and “justice.”

My faith in the Lord is about the pure, simple values: raising children right, saying grace at the table, strictly forbidding those who are Methodists or Presbyterians from receiving communion because their beliefs are heresies, and curing homosexuals. That’s all. Just the core beliefs. You won’t see me going on some frothy-mouthed tirade about being a comfort to the downtrodden.

there is much more at the link above.

Hat tip to catablog.

by the way, check out the comments on this post by Tom Ascol to see some of the thinking lampooned above. Look closely at the comments by Baptist Theology (Dr. Malcom Yarnell). very eye opening point of view. Starting with his “handle”. “Baptist theology”?

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church tradition metaphor?

how about old couch? was great when it was new 20 years ago, but now it isn’t. can’t get rid of it because of all the wonderful memories associated with it.

metaphor courtesy of Andy Stanley, via CataBlog

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Happy Thanksgiving

happy Thanksgiving to everyone. In spite of the recent economic crisis, we continue to live in one of the most blessed nations in the history of the world.

God, in his sovereignty and to praise of his glorious grace, has allowed this nation to prosper in a material way far beyond any previous nation’s prosperity. Let’s not be ungrateful. Let’s not take for granted the manifest blessings of cutting edge health care, public safety, comfort, and so much available food that we suffer from an obesity epidemic.

Most of all, let us be grateful for the freedom to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ whenever, however and in whatever venue we are led to do so.

At the same time, let us take seriously the threat to the Gospel that comes from the very blessings and prosperity mentioned above. People who are surrounded by such bountiful blessings and comfort are easily distracted from the Gospel. It is easy to equate our material prosperity with God’s favor and miss the equally likely possibility that it is the enemy’s attempt to distract us and to lull us into complacency.

we should take this day set aside for thanksgiving and we should be grateful to God that we live in this country at this time. Then let us encourage one another daily as long as it is called today so that none of us is hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

saturday morning
another sunday morning at 105mm

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Update to Why the ESV.

Bryon has posted on his blog about alleged misinformation that I have in my “why the ESV” post.

I certainly want to be accurate and to communicate clearly. It sounds like Bryon’s fuss is more with Crossway and/or Good News Bible Publishers. All I can go on is what they say since I was not involved in making the ESV.

I will direct anyone interested to ESV’s side of the story on these issues and let that be that. This will be cross posted as an update to the original “why the ESV” post as well. Each one of the links below goes to a Crossway page with more information. Here is the text of the entire preface to the ESV Bible for anybody that wants to read it.

here is more on the translation philosophy.

The ESV is an “essentially literal” translation that seeks as far as possible to capture the precise wording of the original text and the personal style of each Bible writer. As such, its emphasis is on “word-for-word” correspondence, at the same time taking into account differences of grammar, syntax, and idiom between current literary English and the original languages. Thus it seeks to be transparent to the original text, letting the reader see as directly as possible the structure and meaning of the original.

here is more on the original manuscripts used.

Each word and phrase in the ESV has been carefully weighed against the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, to ensure the fullest accuracy and clarity and to avoid under-translating or overlooking any nuance of the original text.
….
Throughout, the Translation Team has benefited greatly from the massive textual resources that have become readily available recently, from new insights into biblical laws and culture, and from current advances in Hebrew and Greek lexicography and grammatical understanding.

here is more on the previous English versions used and relied on.

The words and phrases of the ESV grow out of the Tyndale-King James legacy, and most recently out of the RSV, with the 1971 RSV text providing the starting point for the ESV text. Archaic language was brought to current usage and significant corrections were made in the translation of key texts. But throughout, the translators’ goal was to retain the depth of meaning and enduring language that have made their indelible mark on the English-speaking world and have defined the life and doctrine of the church over the last four centuries.

and here is more on the translation notes.

The footnotes that accompany the ESV text inform the reader of textual variations and difficulties and show how these have been resolved by the ESV Translation Team. In addition to this, the footnotes indicate significant alternative readings and occasionally provide an explanation for technical terms or for a difficult reading in the text.

also, as I mentioned, I love the ESV and primarily use it for my reading and study. However, any serious Bible student will use several versions in any preparation for a lesson and I do. I really enjoy having a variety of translations to compare and I feel like we are blessed to live in a time when the Bible is so readily available to us in so many forms and translations.

The Bible Gateway is just an invaluable resource as is Blue Letter Bible.

If you aren’t reading the NET bible and its notes, (or here for another interface) then you are missing a very important and useful resource that is freely available to anybody with an internet connection.

Like I said before, the best Bible for you is the one that you will actually read rather than one you will leave in the car from one Sunday to the next.

Get one and then read it. Please.

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what is community?

I have been struggling with what a christian community should really be for almost six years now.

Acts 2:42 says that the first church devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching, to prayer, to fellowship and to the breaking of bread.

that seems simple enough, except that there aren’t any more apostles around and we don’t seem to discern any difference between fellowship and breaking bread. I have posted previously about the essential elements of a church/faith community as well as what that could look like in our time.

I want to focus in for this post and a couple more on that word “fellowship.” it is the greek word koinōnia. according to Thayer’s Lexicon on that same link, the second definition is intercourse, fellowsip, intimacy, and indicates the intimate bond that unites Christians. It means much more than what we typically mean by the word “fellowship” today. We usually call it fellowship when we get together for a potluck supper. Fellowship can happen at the potluck, but usually doesn’t.

I would say that christian fellowship in a faith community has to have at least these three elements:

1. community
2. transparency
3. authenticity

Community means simply living life together in love with all of its pain and all of its glory. Acts 2:44-45 says that the first faith community “were together and had all things in common”. It also says that they sold their stuff and made sure that everybody had something. Does this mean that we need to go all David Koresh and buy a compound to live a communal life? Of course not. You have to think about the circumstances of this first group. Whether they were previously Jews or Gentiles, they were no longer accepted by their former friends and family. They were outcasts without inheritance or employability. Under the unique circumstances presented be this first faith community, the needed fellowship reaction was to share stuff and get through the immediate crisis of being ostracized from every bit of their former life. To prevent the creation of an overly introspective commune, God sent along a persecution after the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7 that resulted in a diaspora of the faithful throughout Asia Minor and even into Europe.

No, Community means more than just the particular manifestion of it in Acts 2:44-45. Galatians 6:2 says that we are to bear one another’s burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. But then in verse 5 it says that each one will have to bear his own load. Thus, the law of Christ requires that we sometimes bear one another’s burdens in spite of the default that most of the time we are to bear our own load.

The law of Christ is that we love God with all of our heart soul mind and strength and that we love our neighbor as ourselves. Jesus made this more explicit in John 13:34-35 when he told his disciples that he was giving them a new commandment: to love one another. He said that the whole world would recognize that we are his disciples by our love for one another. The word love in John 13:33 is agapaō. It means to prefer others over ourselves. That kind of love for one another is to be our calling card to the world. a self-sacrificing seeking of the good of our brothers and sisters over our own. You can see how that would attract attention.

We must band together in Communities that are characterized by sacrificial love for one another. I Peter 4:8 says that we need to keep our love for one another at full strength because love covers a multitude of sins. The word love here is agapē. When we sacrificially love one another, we can shake off the slights that come our way out of temporary frustration or slippage into sinful patterns by our fellow believers.

That kind of community is what the church is supposed to be. Doing whatever it takes for the benefit of the others. if that means selling some stuff and sharing the proceeds or if it means taking care of kids when somebody is in the hospital, or if it simply means kicking somebody in the rear when they need to quit moping and get back in the game.

Love should lead the way for us as believers. Love can be soft or it can be hard, but it should always seek the best interest of the others rather than our own best interest.

that’s enough for now. later I will look more closely at transparency and accountability and their role in christian fellowship.

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why talk about money at church

Todd Hiestand has some thoughts about why it is important to talk about money at church. Here is his list. Go read his post for discussion under each item.

I’ve become convinced that the church needs to get better at talking about money clearly, passionately and even prophetically. So, here are some reasons why I’m a proponent about taking offering.

It’s great accountability for mission.

It’s an opportunity to teach whole life discipleship.

I love the weekly liturgical act of coming together to share with others.

It is counter-cultural.

It’s an opportunity for people to practically share in our shared mission.

It’s an opportunity to thank each other.

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note to self

here is the Ikonograph describing how he preaches the Gospel to himself.

this sounds eminently edifying.

Preaching the gospel to myself has served to encourage me in my putting to death the deeds of the flesh, as well as cementing the truth of the one and only, true gospel. Here are a few of the things that have been confirmed in my mind:

I am a sinner. If I was any different, the sheer weight of my guilt and shame over my sin would be enough to change my behavior. The fact that I persist in sin can mean nothing other than that I am reprobate to my very core.
If I am to change, someone else must change me.
If someone else is to change me, it can only be God, for He is the only person who is not corrupt Himself.
If He is just, He must judge my sin, and yet a human must be judged.
Christ is the only one who fits both pairs of shoes.

go read the rest

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you gotta close your eyes

a helpful reminder about what is really important. (hint: it ain’t widescreen flat panel T.V.)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb5UHu7ZJsY&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1]

hat tip to Vitamin Z

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do you know God?

when I put up posts like this and this, I wonder if people have the same struggle that I have had over the years from time to time.

that struggle is to find myself learning a lot about our triune God, but not really getting to know Him. Other times, there is passionate intimate fellowship, but sometimes it is much more removed and intellectual.

johnMark at Sweet Tea & Theology has reviewed a J.I. Packer book called Knowing God that looks like it may be able to help in this particular struggle.

Here is a bit from the introduction of the review, but go read it all and maybe get the book if it looks like something that may help you in your pursuit of God.

Do you know God or just know about Him? Do you seek to know God through Scripture or through personal experience? Are you skeptical about the Bible being divine revelation from God?

In Knowing God, J.I. Packer sets out to answer who God is as revealed in the Bible and how we are to know Him. Packer asserts that ‘ignorance of God’ is seen as the root weakness in today’s church. He examines the ignorance of God’s ways, and also as they relate to daily living.

in our Tuesday morning Bible Study we are starting this book by AW Tozer.

I try to always keep in mind that Paul said that the pursuit of knowing God was more important than anything else in his life.

The whole Bible is about God’s passionate pursuit of people. How can we not respond by pursuing Him in return?

by the way, as long as we are on this topic, if you haven’t heard John Piper’s sermons from the 2004 Desiring God National Conference on Sex and Supremacy of Christ, then you have to do so. It will give you a whole new perspective on the passionate pursuit of intimate personal knowledge of God and Christ.

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another presentation of the Gospel

here is another (more traditional) presentation of the Gospel accurately.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8&hl=en&fs=1]

hat tip to Timmy Brister who has another “shocking message” posted on his blog. Go spend another hour over there for that one.

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syncretism

Thanks to Al Mohler, I ran across this story from the Leaf Chronicle.

Syncetism is the reconciliation/fusion of opposing belief systems.

the Leaf Chronicle story talks about Christians using eastern meditation in their devotions.

Like many churchgoers in the Bible Belt, Kristy Robinson teaches Sunday school with her husband and helps prepare communion at their Episcopal church in Franklin, Tenn.

She rounds out her church- and prayer-filled life with another spiritual practice that’s not quite as familiar: meditation.

“I’ll see a difference in my day if I don’t,” says Robinson, who opens each day with 20 minutes of absolute silence.

All the chanting and incense and — yikes — even meditation altars may seem too New Age and mystical for some, but meditation has gone mainstream and been embraced by suburban moms and busy people.

Younger generations get an introduction in yoga classes, careerists escape on meditation retreats and boomers seek tranquility in meditation gardens. Meditation, it seems, is no longer associated as a counterculture activity made hip by The Beatles and favored by flower children.

Some approach meditation through Buddhism or other Eastern religions; more and more Christians meditate through the ancient ritual of centering prayer; while others develop their own style, whether it’s patterned after the breathing techniques of popular guru Deepak Chopra or not.

this is syncretism. eastern meditation involves clearing your mind. Christian meditation means to fill your mind with scripture and focus on it exclusively.

here is Al Mohler

The Bible does speak positively about meditation. In the Psalms, David sings of meditating on the Law of God day and night. The biblical concept of meditation is not without reference to thought and content. To the contrary, it is about thinking that is directed by the Word of God — scripturally saturated thought.

This is almost the exact opposite of Eastern meditation, which sets the emptying of the mind as its goal. The Eastern concept of emptying the mind is just not anything close to the biblical vision of filling the mind with the Word of God.

……
The biblical concept of meditation on the Word of God does involve an emptying, of course. We must empty our minds of ungodly and unbiblical thoughts, of desires for sin and resistance to the reign of God in our lives. But that emptying never involves an empty mind. Instead, it involves a mind in which unbiblical thoughts are replaced by the truth of Scripture — not a blank slate of meditation that revolves around the self.

we should focus on God as he reveals himself in his Word. We should never engage in a practice that encourages us to focus on anything else. Otherwise, we are practicing syncretism. and we all know how God feels about that. Just take a peek at Ezekiel 16 if you aren’t clear on God’s feelings.

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Gospel presentation

I have been speaking about the necessity of proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ. Here is an excellent example of a no punches pulled presentation.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZlzDTdSsE&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&fs=1]

hat tip to Timmy Brister.

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friday feautaux

a couple of macros.
flower and bee
two flash macro

and a sepia of Daniel checking his pictures
portraits

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another Dan Allender quote

Reformissionary has posted another Dan Allender quote from Leading with a Limp. Clearly, I am going to have to get this book.

Paul calls leaders not merely to be humble and self-effacing but to be desperate and honest. It is not enough to be self-revealing, authentic, and transparent. Our calling goes far beyond that. We are called to be reluctant, limping, chief-sinner leaders, and even more, to be stories. The word that Paul uses is that a leader is to be an ‘example,’ but what that implies is more than a figure on a flannel board. He calls us to be a living portrayal of the very gospel we beseech others to believe. And that requires a leader to see himself as being equally prone to deceive as he is to tell the truth, to manipulate as he is to bless, to cower as he is to be bold. A leader is both a hero and a fool, a saint and a felon.

We are both and to pretend otherwise is to be disingenuous. The leader who fails to face [his] darkness must live with fear and hypocrisy. The result will be a defensiveness that places saving face and controlling others as higher goods than blessing others and doing good work. Clearly, the biblical model of leadership is odd, inverted, and deeply troubling. It is so troubling that most churches, seminaries, and other religious organizations would never hire a ‘chief sinner.’ The only one who thinks to do so is God.

Dan Allender in Leading With A Limp, p 57.

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the result of knowing Christ

here is the result of KNOWING the Jesus described below.

when you KNOW the sovereign supreme Jesus intimately well, then you can calmly reject pardons that would keep you from burning at the stake if you would only reject that knowledge.

Read this from Foxe’s Book of Martyrs and think about what your reaction would be as you walked by your eleven children who are about to lose their father.

When the time came that he should be brought out of Newgate to Smithfield, the place of his execution, Mr. Woodroofe, one of the sheriffs, first came to Mr. [John] Rogers, and asked him if he would revoke his abominable doctrine, and the evil opinion of the Sacrament of the altar. Mr. Rogers answered, “That which I have preached I will seal with my blood.”

Then Mr. Woodroofe said, “Thou art an heretic.”

“That shall be known,” quoth Mr. Rogers, “at the Day of Judgment.”

“Well,” said Mr. Woodroofe, “I will never pray for thee.”

“But I will pray for you,” said Mr. Rogers; and so was brought the same day, the fourth of February, by the sheriffs, towards Smithfield, saying the Psalm Miserere by the way, all the people wonderfully rejoicing at his constancy; with great praises and thanks to God for the same.

And there in the presence of Mr. Rochester, comptroller of the queen’s household, Sir Richard Southwell, both the sheriffs, and a great number of people, he was burnt to ashes, washing his hands in the flame as he was burning. A little before his burning, his pardon was brought, if he would have recanted; but he utterly refused it. He was the first martyr of all the blessed company that suffered in Queen Mary’s time that gave the first adventure upon the fire. His wife and children, being eleven in number, ten able to go, and one sucking at her breast, met him by the way, as he went towards Smithfield. This sorrowful sight of his own flesh and blood could nothing move him, but that he constantly and cheerfully took his death with wonderful patience, in the defence and quarrel of the Gospel of Christ.

emphasis added.

would you cheerfully take your death “in the defence and quarrel of the Gospel of Christ”?

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we must KNOW this Christ

this is the Christ we must know:
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parting question. does the supremacy of Christ recited here give you comfort? or does it provoke some other emotion? Just asking.

hat tip to Vitamin Z

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Voddie Baucham

who knew? he seemed so normal. So passionate about the gospel. wow. Just can’t ever tell about some people.

Here let him tell you himself:

However, neither of these constituted fatal infractions. I co-sponsored an education in 2004, but preached at the SBC in 2005. I stood against Y[outh]M[inistry] for years and while many were uncomfortable, I was still part of the gang. That is, until I came out of the closet. No… I’m not gay. It’s far worse than that. I’m a Calvinist! That’s right, I’m a fire-breathing, TULIP believing, five-point Calvinist. That, my friends, is the unpardonable sin in contemporary Southern Baptist life (unless your name is Al Mohler and you’ve been President of the flagship Southern Baptist Theological Seminary since you were in your early thirties and happen to be the most intelligent, articulate, winsome public face the Convention has).

I was ‘outed’ in 2006 when I preached at the Desiring God National Conference. Prior to that I had preached at Alistair Begg’s conferences, but Desiring God was the fatal blow. After that the questions began to swirl. After preaching a message in a Pastor’s conference in 2006 a dear friend approached me (he is a well-known Calvinist whose name I won’t mention… TOM ASCOL …and I was going to be preaching in his church the next day). He was laughing about a debate he overheard between two pastors. The issue? Whether or not I believed regeneration precedes faith! These brothers had begun to put two and two together but they just knew it couldn’t be four. It was as though I had contracted AIDS. These guys were actually mourning! “I had him in my church!” one of them lamented. I could have done a lot of things and been just fine. However, the dreaded “C” word has become a death sentence in “mainstream” Southern Baptist life.

Timmy Brister adds:

Here is yet another leading voice of the past decade of the younger generation of Southern Baptists that has been marginalized by the anti-Calvinist agenda of the SBC. Perhaps someone should warn Matt Chandler who is scheduled next year to speak both at the 2009 FBC JAX Conference (Feb. 6-10) as well as the 2009 Desiring God Pastor’s Conference (Feb. 2-4). In any case, one should take note that the anti-Calvinist leadership of the SBC–from the Executive Committee to the John 3:16 Conference–is unplugging the microphones of the voices attracting younger Southern Baptists today.

you have to believe that the Southern Baptists are in serious [demographic] trouble going into the future. why in the world they would want to go out of their way to antagonize passionate and serious young Bible students in the convention is not immediately obvious.

I was a late arrival to the SBC (following law school at around age 26) and I left early this year (age 40) because of my belief that too many people in the Convention are unwilling or unable to take the Bible as it is rather than as they wish it to be. It appears to me that there is far too much attention and reverence paid to the traditions of men rather than the word of God.

Just my opinion. But reading about the recent John 3:16 conference. Reading Steve Lemke’s paper and Timmy Brister’s rebuttal. Listening to messages against Calvinism by the likes of Dr. John Compton and the rebuttal thereto by John Mark.

and comparing all of the free willers and their arguments to those of John Piper from the text of scripture I am left to wonder if there is a principled scriptural argument to make against Calvinism. I sure haven’t heard it and I have been looking pretty hard.

from the free willers I hear a lot of human logic. I hear a lot of versions of this type of argument “believing that would mean ______ and therefore, the Bible can’t really mean what it appears to say.” I also never hear a coherent and cogent response to the question about how salvation actually occurs in the free will context. In other words, if we are dead in our trespasses and sins like Paul says we were in Ephesians 2, then how do we become alive and responsive? Do free willers think that dead doesn’t mean dead? does it instead mean “mostly dead”. Do free willers accept that God makes us alive before we accept Him? Why not? Based on what scripture? Do free willers believe that Christ’s penal substitutionary atonement on the cross was effective for everyone’s salvation? then why isn’t everyone saved?

if it depends on human choice in the last instance, then why did charlie say yes and sammy say no? is charlie smarter than sammy? Is charlie just luckier? If charlie starts thinking he was smarter and made a smarter choice, wouldn’t that be a “work” about which he could “boast” even though Paul makes it clear that regeneration, grace, and faith for salvation are all from God and that we have nothing whatsoever to boast about? Ephesians 2:1-10

Why not just believe what Paul said and accept whatever consequences derive from that? why work so hard to explain it away?

Why would any group of churches and pastors run off passionate Bible believing younger people because they dared to accept the Bible’s teaching on these points for what they are?

I really don’t understand the thinking here.

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a word from Mark Driscoll

here is a word from Mark Driscoll:

If you look at porn, have looked at porn, or know someone that looks at porn—download this book, print it out, and read it.

This book is now available to download and print as many copies as you like. It’s short and should be cheap to print. We’ll be making the book available for purchase soon.

A Few Ideas
Get a few friends together and deal honestly with each other about the subjects of each chapter.
Once you’re done reading, pass it on to a friend.
Give it to the counseling pastor at your church as a resource.

only 56 pages long. quick read, but nothing easy about it.

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now for something different

this is cool. and it is supremely, to use Jonah Goldberg’s word, nerdtastic.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&fs=1]

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shoot the wolves

Many of you may remember Mark Driscoll’s talk at the Desiring God National Conference this year. Item number three in that message is that we have a responsibility to shoot the wolves. As I mentioned here, shooting the wolves means to publicly call out false teachers before they have a chance to harm the flock. Their error must be exposed and publicized to prevent as much damage as can be prevented.

I love the way Mark puts it after quoting extensively from Matthew 23:

Jesus shoots the wolves. Some of you get very frustrated because you want to be treated like sheep, but the problem is you are acting like wolves. We are supposed to love the sheep and shoot the wolves because we love the sheep.

Here is a particular instance of a brave christian leader accepting his responsibility to shoot the wolves.

Thank you Adrian for refusing to accept the invitation to let bygones be bygones on such a foundational matter as Penal Substitutionary Atonement. I know that you know, but let me affirm that you are quite correct that without this pillar there is no gospel.

I love the whole post, but the tone is evident in this bit:

The truth is, there could scarcely be a more important subject. On the one side are people like Steve Chalke who genuinely believe that many evangelicals today are teaching a barbaric pre-Christian lie that is destroying the Church’s witness. On the other hand are those of us who believe that if we were to deny that Jesus took the punishment that was due us for our sin, turning aside the wrath of God by bearing it in himself, quite simply there would be no gospel left.

I can’t see how people who really believe either of those two positions can just agree to disagree and work together as fellow evangelicals. One group must be wrong. Whichever group is right are also clearly quite correct to be very concerned about the opposite group who are, by their false teaching, distorting the gospel and preventing people from coming to a true knowledge of what Jesus has done for them. There are some issues on which we can compromise. This is not one of them.

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Questions at church?

I don’t watch the show Desperate Housewives so I only have a passing familiarity with it or its characters. But thanks to the Vision Navigator, I saw this clip and it struck a chord with me.

watch this right quick (excuse the mild expletive)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYjz30ey3g&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&fs=1]

parenthetically, do you get the impression that this was the most memorable church service ever in this particular big room?

is your church like the one in the clip? are you supposed to just sit and listen to sermons with answers and hope that sometime (hopefully soon) a sermon will have the answer you need for your question?

Or do you go to a place where questions are encouraged? Do you think questions should be asked? questions of the preacher? of God?

Let me be very clear about my bias on this issue. I love questions. I eat live and breathe questions. the idea of not asking a question because “we don’t do that here” breaks me out in hives.

I think that packed into the idea of the Bereans examining the scripture for themselves to see if what Paul said was true in Acts 17:11 was the idea that these folks heard something Paul said and they thought to themselves some version of “wait just a cotton-picking minute, what did he just say? I sure never saw that in scripture before, let me check that out.” For this type of questioning, Luke commended them as “more noble” than the Thessalonians who apparently didn’t do such examination.

I think the clip above demonstrates two different types of questions.

This first type of question involves the lesson being taught.

Feedback from the group about the lesson in the moment when there is an opportunity to correct mistakes and clear up misunderstandings is absolutely invaluable. We should have sermon time with a feedback loop involving questions in every service. This is the way I have taught for years and I assure you that it can be done in even large groups. Many times, I have been flagged down in mid sentence to explain exactly what the heck I was just trying to say. This type of questioning must occur. Language is a difficult way to communicate and it is fraught with the potential for being misheard and misunderstood. Only with questions in the moment can the teacher have some assurance that what he or she was trying to say was heard and understood.

The second type of question is of the substantive type that Lynette was asking in the video above.

This is a question about the nature of God and reasons that He does the things he does in the world. Regarding the questioning of God, attitude is everything. Daniel was commended as a person highly treasured by God after he humbled himself and sought understanding from God. Daniel 10:10-12 cf Daniel 9:22-23. See also Psalm 25:14 where we are assured that God’s friendship is with those who fear him and that he will make his covenant known to them.

Al Mohler says it like this:

Considering a human father for a moment, we can recognize two different ways of questioning his ways. The first way would be to rest secure in his love and fatherly care, but to express confusion over his ways. Even the most faithful and trusting children wonder about their parents at times. What are they up to? Why did they make that decision rather than the other? What was the purpose of that action? As close as children are to parents, parents often perplex children by acting like adults. In this mode of questioning, the child never questions the father’s love and faithful disposition, but does admit confusion — and perhaps even disappointment.

The other way of questioning a human father is to question his character, his faithfulness, or the authenticity of his love. This is an altogether different mode of questioning. In this second pattern of questioning, the child questions the father’s heart, not merely his actions and ways.

Now, move from considering these two different modes of questioning a human father to a parallel set of approaches to questioning our heavenly Father. It is not unfaithful to admit and to articulate a sense of perplexity and pain in observing the ways of God. There are times when we cannot offer an explanation of God’s ways. At times, we cannot even detect any possibility of a purpose. We can admit this to ourselves, to our brothers and sisters in Christ, and to our heavenly Father.

The other mode of questioning God, on the other hand, constitutes sin and implies unbelief. We cannot remain faithful and question God’s own faithfulness. His love for those who are in Christ is beyond question. His character is a constant and his love never fails. He is not loving and gracious toward believers at one moment, only to turn into a malevolent deity the next. He never changes.

In this light, it would be sin to question God in this second sense — the sense in which we might question whether God really loves us, or if He is really faithful to his promises. This is not the questioning worthy of a believer, but of an unbeliever.

Do you see the difference? We should never question God’s motives. We can, in faith, have questions about His methods if we maintain our respect for God’s ultimate sovereignty and goodness.

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moon in black and white

Here is a trick that I learned this week from Shadow Hunter on flickr. If you shoot the moon in black and white, it comes out sharper than color.

See if you can tell which is which:

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jpeg normal Monochrome

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trying direct photo insert

a bit of flaring.

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trying direct image upload

instead of linking to flickr. if you click on the picture, you can see the full size version.

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religion v. redemption

While we are talking about Mark Driscoll, here is probably my most favorite ten minutes from him that I have yet heard. Just watch this (several times) and think about it.
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